{"id":146,"date":"2024-10-21T09:44:40","date_gmt":"2024-10-21T09:44:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.d-c-k.com\/mme-el\/?p=146"},"modified":"2024-10-21T09:44:40","modified_gmt":"2024-10-21T09:44:40","slug":"conversations-with-mme-el","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.d-c-k.com\/mme-el\/conversations-with-mme-el\/","title":{"rendered":"Conversations with Mme El"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"entry-content\">\n<p><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">I <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">have had many conversations with Mme El, learning a lot <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">about her life, even if her memory has been gradually fading <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">over the years, which does not impair her ability to think <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">when dealing with the issues of the present, like for example <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">incidents with L\u00e9onine or with the nurses or comment on <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">newspaper reports we\u2019ve just read.<\/span><br role=\"presentation\" \/><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">Mme El is frank, straight-forward, you know where you <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">are with her, she has principles, clothes don\u2019t matter, she <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">doesn\u2019t deceive, hates gossip, sizes up her fellows pretty well, <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">philosophizes about life \u2013 \u2018es atal\u2019- and has no intention of <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">leaving this funny world with its Ukraines, Syrias, etc. just yet.<\/span><br role=\"presentation\" \/><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">She appreciates my company and I hers, my human contact <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">here, and I see a great deal more of her than her son, a busy <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">musician whose sphere of competence is mainly outside the <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">house.\u00a0<\/span><br role=\"presentation\" \/><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">L\u00e9onine was complaining to me about her mother-in-law.<br \/>\n<\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">The following, I heard, had happened, but I don\u2019t know how <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">it came about : Mme El had wee weed on the pretty shoes of <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">the young and insolent nurse Odile, one of the nurses who <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">come in three times a day to help with the care. And instead <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">of apologizing for this deplorable incident, L\u00e9onine told me <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">indignantly, Mme El, when upbraided for her misdeed, had <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">answered: \u2018That\u2019s the risk of the trade!\u2019 It made Steve laugh <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">when I told him, but not Odile and L\u00e9onine who were fuming <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">at the outrage! I gather, Odile and Mme El don\u2019t get on, the <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">reason being clear to me: the young woman, younger than <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">Mme El\u2019s grandsons, is just a bit too cheeky or disrespectful, <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">inspired by the domestic example, for referring to Mme El\u2019s <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">tired looks, dark around the eyes, did she not ask whether <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">Mme El had been \u201ccelebrating during the night\u201d! \u2013 and what <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">exactly she did to enable Mme El who only moves with great <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">difficulty, to get her own back, I haven\u2019t a clue. It wouldn\u2019t<\/span><br role=\"presentation\" \/><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">have happened with Clare, I said to L\u00e9onine who agreed, but <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">was adamant that Mme El had behaved abominably.<\/span><br role=\"presentation\" \/><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">I left it at that and didn\u2019t tell her Mme El\u2019s comment on the <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">death at the hands of the enemy of certain young soldier who <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">was being mourned in the press nationwide. She said \u2018when <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">he signed the contract, he knew it might cost him his life\u2019. I said <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">nothing in reply and she \u2018I\u2019m being wicked\u2019, with a questioning <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">look. I told her she was realistic.<\/span><br role=\"presentation\" \/><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">Mme<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">El, who worries about having been too hard on her <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">son in his early years \u2013 does he bear her a grudge by any <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">chance and for this reason never spends any time with her? Is <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">the unasked question -, has to bear her packet like everyone <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">else. Wouldn\u2019t it be good if her heart gave in at home, like <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">her father\u2019s did one night after a good meal? Heart or not, <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">she\u2019s got to pull her own clothes down and up again for the <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">loo-business, once more wetting the whole area, but was not <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">reprimanded, I was there when it happened.<\/span><br role=\"presentation\" \/><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">At our last meeting I challenged Mme El on her understanding <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">of \u2018pardonner\u2019, to pardon. What exactly does the word mean?<\/span><br role=\"presentation\" \/><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">She gave the explanation \u2018passer l\u2019\u00e9ponge\u2019, forget it.<\/span><br role=\"presentation\" \/><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">I had wanted to gradually approach the thorny subject of <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">marital fidelity, but we never got there for the simple reason <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">that she didn\u2019t need prompting but volunteered \u2018je ne <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">pardonne pas!\u2019. If anybody harms or hurts her, that\u2019s the end <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">of that person, she won\u2019t have anymore to do with that one.<\/span><br role=\"presentation\" \/><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">I believe she meant deliberate harm and I was trying to think <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">of examples in my own life, the man with the sledge-hammer.<\/span><br role=\"presentation\" \/><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">Indeed, the issue of pardon had never arisen. Somebody <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">would have to ask for it, of course. Then I was thinking of <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">neighbour Rose. Behaving nastily is not the same as harming. I <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">couldn\u2019t say that I was harmed or hurt, she had upset me, it is <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">true, but I had calmed down again. I didn\u2019t get anywhere with <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">Mme El on this subject. For her the case was clear: no pardon <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">ever from her, even if the church preaches it, but she isn\u2019t of <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">the church, she points out, much as she insists on seeing T.V. <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">mass on a Sunday and answers my challenge in this respect by <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">saying \u2018it\u2019s to spend time\u2019, with a questioning look. Rock-hard <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">and uncompromizing, hard and straight, two words she likes <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">to use, quite awesome really and no doubt not appreciated <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">by some.<\/span><br role=\"presentation\" \/><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">Mme El read a newspaper article to me about the Mayor <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">of Pamios (Pamiers)<\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\"><sup class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote \" data-mfn=\"4\" data-mfn-post-scope=\"000000004030e3d80000000011e60c3c_144\"><a title=\"Pamios (Pamiers), the largest city of the Ari\u00e8ge department, centre of the Inquisition in the thirteenth to fourteenth centuries.\" role=\"button\" aria-pressed=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mfn-content-000000004030e3d80000000011e60c3c_144\">4<\/a><\/sup><span id=\"mfn-content-000000004030e3d80000000011e60c3c_144\" class=\"modern-footnotes-footnote__note\" tabindex=\"0\" role=\"tooltip\" data-mfn=\"4\">Pamios (Pamiers), the largest city of the Ari\u00e8ge department, centre of the Inquisition in the thirteenth to fourteenth centuries.<\/span><\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">, who<\/span> <span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">is her age, eighty-eight.: he has <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">had donkeys years at the helm and wants to be candidate for <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">another term in the forthcoming municipal elections. The job <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">keeps him alive.<\/span><br role=\"presentation\" \/><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">How much longer? Mme El says at her age it\u2019s time to go, <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">but adds that she doesn\u2019t really feel like it. Destiny will rule, <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">anyway.<\/span><br role=\"presentation\" \/><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">Mme El\u2019s doctor had been to give her a check-up before <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">she goes into the rest-home for a fortnight while her people <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">are away on their cruise. He found his patient in very good <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">condition, even if nothing can be done about the loss of <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">memory which L\u00e9onine calls \u2018perdre la t\u00eate\u2019, \u2018go nuts\u2019. L\u00e9onine <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">was in good spirits because the good result was entirely <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">imputed to her care, not altogether unjustifiedly so, and to <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">that of the nurses, keep it up. As for Mme El, she was quite <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">bewildered by all this talk about her health, but she certainly <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">understood the significance of the doctor\u2019s findings. \u2018What <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">about me?!\u2019 she said, \u2018I\u2019m the one who\u2019s happy!\u2019 and so be it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">Mme El, now turned eighty-nine, wants to stay in her chair, <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">doesn\u2019t want to move on her legs because that\u2019s difficult <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">and painful, but she must because it makes life easier for her <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">\u2018carers\u2019. She protests that she doesn\u2019t want to \u2018go\u2019, but wants <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">to stay around, indefinitely? She hasn\u2019t given it a thought, she <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">lives in the present and with a shudder applies herself to her <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">favourite column in the newspaper, the \u2018carnets\u2019, a bashful <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">designation for deaths. Most people of her generation have <\/span><span dir=\"ltr\" role=\"presentation\">\u2018gone\u2019, she is holding the fort!<\/span><\/p>\n<ul class=\"modern-footnotes-list \">\n<li>4\n<div>Pamios (Pamiers), the largest city of the Ari\u00e8ge department, centre of the Inquisition in the thirteenth to fourteenth centuries.<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have had many conversations with Mme El, learning a lot about her life, even if her memory has been gradually fading over the years, which does not impair her ability to think when dealing with the issues of the present, like for example incidents with L\u00e9onine or with the nurses or comment on newspaper [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-146","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.d-c-k.com\/mme-el\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/146","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.d-c-k.com\/mme-el\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.d-c-k.com\/mme-el\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.d-c-k.com\/mme-el\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.d-c-k.com\/mme-el\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=146"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.d-c-k.com\/mme-el\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/146\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":147,"href":"https:\/\/www.d-c-k.com\/mme-el\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/146\/revisions\/147"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.d-c-k.com\/mme-el\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=146"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.d-c-k.com\/mme-el\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=146"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.d-c-k.com\/mme-el\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=146"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}